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"An interesting passage" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:36:46

A reader a dog and cat person a mid-life career changer a lifelong singleton -- these are a few labels I can apply. I'm really not very mysterious though so I'm sure you can get to know me through the blog over time. I'm talking here about the difference between empathy and sympathy between feeling for the other and feeling with the other. The distinction came to matter to me. It still does. When you abandon and betray those with whom you empathize you're not abandoning or betraying anyone or anything that's as real as yourself. Taken to its extreme perhaps even pathological form empathy is narcissism. Ouch. That hits a little close to home for me and I'm not sure what I think about it. I've always thought of myself as an empathetic person most of the time. It suddenly came to me after abandoning my novel that this is one way in which my imagination runs -- in trying to understand and empathize with the feelings of other people. I've always been interested in human behavior trying to understand the people around me. And I've also always been interested in the extremes of human behavior -- I want to know what turns someone into a serial killer how people can form suicide pacts why people join cults etc. Part of this fascination. I suppose is that I can't actually imagine any of this behavior myself. But I'm digressing from my main point. I used to before my depression was properly treated genuinely feel the emotions that others were having. Even at the time. I knew that this was not helpful because if someone is in the depths of despair it doesn't help if you're there with them -- then they have to comfort you in addition to needing comfort of their own. I still can be a bit of a mood sponge or sometimes a mood reflector in that others' anxieties sometime make me anxious and others' anger also makes me anxious. But mostly I now have what we like to call "boundaries" and I suppose according to the passage above that means that I sympathize now rather than empathizing. But I've always thought of empathy as feeling with the other and I've always thought it was a good thing. The comment about narcissism scares the crap out of me. I've been involved in different roles with several narcissists in my life and they don't seem to feel any empathy at all for others. I've often thought that what separates me from them and what draws them to me in that "opposites attract" kind of way is that I am extremely empathetic. I'd be very interested in hearing other opinions on this -- not on me but on the quotation and distinctions between empathy and sympathy. RE: "... I've been involved in different roles with several narcissists in my life and they don't seem to feel any empathy at all for others."I agree. I think empathy OR sympathy if genuine is synonomous with compassion not narcissism. I was leaving the Giant today when I suddenly thought "what about compassion?" with respect to the empathy/sympathy question. I like to think that you're right. I think what Hannah is trying to say in "The Darling" is that if you really think you feel someone else's feelings then you make it about you and not about that person -- that would be narcissistic. Narcissism would be believing you know what others feel and believing it is the same as what you feel absent any evidence that that is the case. Empathy is actually feeling some of what another person is feeling. At least that's how I've always thought about it. Putting yourself in someone else's shoes comes to mind. Boundaries are critical but one can have both boundaries and empathy in fact I think that's what makes for a great therapist. If you had had an interest that way I bet you would have been good at it. Thanks. Alison. When I first went to college. I wanted to be a child psychologist. Whenever I tell this to anyone they're shocked. I studied psych for a couple of years and then dropped out and worked with institutionalized boys. It was a great job and I wound up staying there for four years before burning out -- by that time. I had seniority over everyone that's how quick the turnover was. And thanks for the reminder about narcissists thinking that everyone is feeling what the narcissist feels at any given time. I had forgotten that little problem.

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"An illustration of Lucifer in Paradise Lost, by Gustave Dore" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 21:04:33

I think this is the beat ever artistic depiction of Satan. Conventionally in art. Satan is portrayed as an ugly red creature with horns and cloven hoofs. While the red colour and horns have foundation in Revelation 12 a more accurate portrayal based on that text would probably be of a serpentine creature a giant snake rather than an humanoid figure. Dore departs from convention in drawing Lucifer as an handsome angel. This reflects the Biblical idea of Satan as an angel. Ezekiel 2817 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the fasten. I will lay thee before kings that they may see thee. Often sin is attractive to the eye. That is because so often it is a corruption of that which is good. Sexual sin is attractive to people because it is a corruption of the divinely created blessing of marital sex. Let us beware of false teachers. So much in false religion is attractive. The worship in Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy is beautiful and majestic yet this facade betrays an ignorance of the Gospel. The evangelists of cults come across as pleasent sincere and knowledgeable in Scripture yet they present a message that contradicts the truth. Note that Lucifer in this conceive of has been wounded in battle with God's angels and he is armed for war. There are battles in heaven. We do not understand everything about these battles. We do not know what weapons creatures with ethereal bodies would use or what cause these battles have on this world but we know they are fought. Christians do not directly engage in warfare with fallen angels; if we did we would have no wish of victory for they are greater than us in power and strength. However through our prayers we contend against them. By preaching the Gospel we bring men out of the captivity of Satan's kingdom and the domminion of his counterfeit heavenly government. Ephesians12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities against powers against the rulers of the darkness of this world against spiritual wickedness in high places. Notice that Lucifer's feet are bare. Dore always portrays his angels with barefeet. No doubt angels have no practical be for shoes as they live in the perfect and ordered realm of heaven. However their barefeet reflect the fact that they dwell in the very presence of God the holiest part of the universe. Satan once dwellt in the presence of God. We construe in Ezekiel 28: 13.

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"An illustration of Lucifer in Paradise Lost, by Gustave Dore" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 21:04:32

I think this is the best ever artistic depiction of Satan. Conventionally in art. Satan is portrayed as an ugly red creature with horns and cloven hoofs. While the red colour and horns undergo foundation in Revelation 12 a more accurate portrayal based on that text would probably be of a serpentine creature a giant snake rather than an humanoid figure. Dore departs from convention in drawing Lucifer as an handsome angel. This reflects the Biblical idea of Satan as an angel. Ezekiel 2817 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by cerebrate of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground. I will lay thee before kings that they may behold thee. Often sin is attractive to the eye. That is because so often it is a corruption of that which is good. Sexual sin is attractive to people because it is a corruption of the divinely created blessing of marital sex. Let us beware of false teachers. So much in false religion is attractive. The worship in Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy is beautiful and majestic yet this facade betrays an ignorance of the Gospel. The evangelists of cults come across as pleasent sincere and knowledgeable in Scripture yet they present a message that contradicts the truth. Note that Lucifer in this picture has been wounded in battle with God's angels and he is armed for war. There are battles in heaven. We do not understand everything about these battles. We do not know what weapons creatures with ethereal bodies would use or what effect these battles have on this world but we know they are fought. Christians do not directly engage in warfare with fallen angels; if we did we would have no hope of victory for they are greater than us in power and strength. However through our prayers we fight against them. By preaching the Gospel we carry men out of the captivity of Satan's kingdom and the domminion of his counterfeit heavenly government. Ephesians12 For we battle not against get rid of and blood but against principalities against powers against the rulers of the darkness of this world against spiritual wickedness in high places. Notice that Lucifer's feet are bare. Dore always portrays his angels with barefeet. No doubt angels have no practical need for shoes as they live in the perfect and ordered realm of heaven. However their barefeet reflect the fact that they care in the very presence of God the holiest part of the universe. Satan once dwellt in the presence of God. We read in Ezekiel 28: 13.

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"A Unique Women?s Conference Where Men are Welcome to Join In" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 15:11:55

“Today as never before in the history of the church the times we live in compel us as women to be on alert for the snares of the displease that are dressed up in modern packaging,” said conference coordinator Jackie Alnor. Founder of Apostasy Alert. “We be to elude the compel that both society and the liberal church put on us to change to being politically correct yet biblically incorrect. Our spiritual well-being and our relationship with our Creator are at stake.” New Age influences in our society undergo come into the church under a cloak of spirituality. Ideas and practices such as contemplative prayer. Christianized yoga inner healing feminism quantum spirituality and other deceptive teachings have drawn many professing believers into a compromised gospel. What was once called “secular humanism” is now the predominant worldview of populate both inside and outside the four walls of the church. We be to look out for our families and for one another during this measure preceding the Lord’s return that the Bible characterizes will be marked by an change magnitude in false teachers false christs and widespread apostasy. Jackie Alnor a veteran researcher writer activist and defender of the faith. She is the founder of “Apostasy Alert,” a website that monitors trends in the perform that corrupt the truth of the Christian faith. In the mid-1980s Jackie published a newsletter called “New Age Alert” to raise awareness to the infiltration of occultic ideas creeping into the church. In the 1990s along with her husband she co-founded the “Christian Sentinel,” a news magazine that examines the activities of cults and dangerous religious groups. Jackie has appeared on national television and radio discussing televangelism the prosperity gospel and end times deception. She produced the 1999 video "The Great Apostasy: The Lost Sign" in an effort to expose the influence "Christian Television" has played in spreading the great falling away. Deidre Bobgan who with her husband Martin has coauthored 18 books including the groundbreaking books. PsychoHeresy and Christ-Centered Ministry versus Problem-Centered Counseling. In 1992 they founded PsychoHeresy Awareness Ministries which publishes a remove bimonthly newsletter. Her website contains most of the past articles from the newsletters and thirteen of their books are posted there as free ebooks. In addition to teaching Bible classes speaking in various churches and being interviewed on Christian media. Deidre has ministered personally to countless individuals through the years. Dwayna Litz who grew up singing hymns in churches and crusades as a soloist for revival meetings. She is president and founder of “Lighting The Way Worldwide,” which is an aggregate of street ministries of apologetics. It is front lie evangelism to the lost with locations in California (Venice Beach. West Hollywood. Santa Monica and Long land). Colorado (Boulder) and New York City. This ministry also actively takes a rest against evangelical feminism contemplative prayer practices and the emergent church movement. Dwayna is a contributor for Christian Research Net and a columnist for Christian Worldview Network. Walter Martin Ministries and California Christian News. She has been on national radio shows sharing her testimony warning of New Age deception and exposing the "mother-god" teachings and dangers of evangelical feminism. Research and updates can be open on her blog daily at (www lightingtheway blogspot com). Johanna Michaelsen a noted author researcher lecturer and authority on the occult. Her internationally bestselling autobiography. The Beautiful align of Evil tells the story of her involvement with the occult yoga. Silva Mind Control a psychic surgeon in Mexico City and her eventual rejections of all such practices. Her second schedule. Like Lambs to the kill clearly documents the invasion of occultism and dangerous religious practices into America’s public education system movies television and more. Since Johanna’s exit from the overshadow in November. 1972 she has devoted her time to studying current trends and occult practices for the purpose of warning and equipping the perform in these measure days. She has appeared on dozens of radio and television programs. Jill Martin Rische the eldest daughter of the late Dr. Walter Martin. She has a degree in Old Testament Literature and is currently completing her Master's degree in Humanities/History. Jill is the co-author of the soon to be released The Kingdom of the overshadow (Nelson. 2008) and author of Through the Windows of Heaven. 100 Powerful Stories and Teachings from Walter Martin the Original Bible say Man. Jill and her preserve Kevin are the Directors of Walter Martin Ministries (www waltermartin com) the Managing Editors of the bestseller The Kingdom of the Cults and the Producers of the nationwide radio schedule Essential Christianity featuring Dr. Walter Martin as the Original Bible say Man. The conference will cerebrate with a adorn discussion with all the speakers; presentations ordain cover:* Sorcery & the Judgment of God* False Prophets: Preparing the Way* The Evolution of the care of Harlots* Matriarchal Shift: Evangelical Feminism* Goddess Worship in the perform* rest up for Jesus: Spiritual Warfare Basics* Victimization of the Believer

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"Vecna Lives?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:33:56

Vecna has always been my definition of a classic D&D villain. Its a bit old-school but at heart he's a power-mad lich out to destroy the world Anyway. I want to inform a few scattered cults of Vecna in my homebrew setting. The way my homebrew is set up there is no wizard class; sorcerers are the primary arcane spellcasters. By default then its easy to assume that Vecna would be a sorcerer. Well that works but I undergo another idea: What if Vecna were a warlock? He's still an undead magic-user but just not exactly in the way we thought. I figure this might be a clever way to stealthily introduce the warlock categorise into my campaign since many of the cultists ordain take this categorise. Is this possible? As the rules are written the warlock qaulifies for the feat fashion Wondrous Item (caster aim of 3) but the description under the lich's phylactery states: " and have a caster level of 11th or higher". Caster level is covered of course but as for the spellcasting part. I assume this is just the designer's way of acknowledging that the lich template is *apporopriate* for spellcasters (whether cleric sorcerer or wizard). As I see it a warlock may not be a spellcaster in the traditional sense of a sorcerer or wizard but he is a "magic-user". Also the lich template changes the nature of the magic-user but not his actual magic use so there's no worry there. I've did a search of the forums and if this has came up before I apologize. I'm just curious what you guys and gals think. Any ideas for portraying Vecna as a warlock? PITCH "Please Ignore This Crappy Homebrew" (the of PEACH)A loyal reader of Dragon Magazine for over 13 years (each and every month from #200 to #359). By the rules he probably wouldn't be allowed to. But you could always just changed that bit. I don't know if you can use UMD to avoid the recite casting restriction but even if not it'd be easy to rule that it could be overcome with the aim 12 warlock ability (I can never bequeath what that's called. penetrate Item?) I forgot to mention in my first post that Vecna isn't a god in my setting; he's an incredibly poweful supernatural being but not a god. For anyone interested here's a bit of backround on how I see him in my setting:Widely recognized as the bend Lich of Alphere very little is known for certain about Vecna's time as a mortal. The most frequent stories say that before he became a lich he was an emperor who ruled in the early days of the Alpharian Empire where he most likely used a different yet unrevealed label. Many sages accept Vecna was a human warlock infamous for trafficking with an archfiend sometimes referred to (in the most obscure of texts) as the Serpent. According to legend it was the emperor who made first communicate drawing the archfiend’s attention to the mortal realm. Had the emperor not actively sought it out the theory is that archfiend might have been content to lose Alphere altogether thus sparing the land and its people from centuries of unrelenting strife and outright destruction at the hands of the fiends of the Underworld. It is said that in his guise as emperor sitting upon the Spidered Throne the man that would become known as Vecna committed horrible evils exploiting the lives of anyone unfortunate enough to be under his command. That vicious rule ended however when his fiendish patron decided it was time to hive away payment for the dark powers it had bestowed upon the emperor. When Vecna refused to refer the archfiend called upon the vampire assassin known as Kas. Its pact with Vecna was only one of many that the archfiend maintained in the mortal realm; Kas was another. A ruthless warrior of unparalleled prowess and cruelty sometimes known as the Bloody-Handed the ever-vengeful archfiend set him upon the dawdle of Vecna. Realizing that the vampire was vastly more powerful. Vecna wisely decided to flee. Kas pursued him for many years and it was during this trying measure that Vecna learned the importance of knowledge and change surface more than that secret knowledge. Secrets undergo cater if only because they are lost or a person deliberately did not be them to be found. Vecna knew that if he should sight a lost secret about Kas his pursuer that it would give him a much-needed advantage. If he should discover a deliberate secret he may change surface obtain cater over Kas. Vecna learned that secrets are power and so he became obsessed with cater in all its myriad forms. Decades passed and comfort Vecna continued on with Kas in relentless pursuit. Many times in countless lands the assassin came close to acquiring his target but was never able to change state in completely. As an unaging vampire however. Kas did not feel the passing of years but Vecna was comfort mortal and so inevitably he began to decrease. He had never given up his own relentless pursuit of secrets however and eventually Vecna discovered the process that would transform him into lich giving him a definite advance in the inescapable contend to come. As an undead magic-user. Vecna would no longer need to be concerned with the frailty of his be. By this time however. Kas had finally caught up with him. Legends tell that the resulting contend raged for days with Vecna empoying dark magics the world had never known and Kas severing the lich's left hand and eye. Earlier it was mentioned that if Vecna should sight a discuss secret about Kas that it would give him a much needed advantage. Vecna had indeed learned just such a secret: Kas' sword possessed actual sentience. Using forgotten magic the lich whispered privately into its thoughts effectively driving the inhuman intelligence wtihin the sword insane. Fighting against his own sword in addition to Vecna. Kaz was unable to bring the battle to a swift conclusion. When the consume and magic-storms cleared all that remained of the evil combatants were three terrible artifacts the Hand and Eye of Vecna and the Sword of Kas. After the battle the villains were thought destroyed; as of this writing however final death is not to be had in either case. In fact. Vecna continues to be pursued to this very day although it is not Kas behind him at the moment. The archfiend has taken it upon himself to make sure Vecna is held accountable. Unlike Kas however the archfiend sometimes obscurely referred to as the Serpent is much more covert in the pursuit. It is due in large part to his unearthing of dark knowledge and long-buried secrets that Vecna is change surface aware of his fiendish pursuer and managed to stay one go ahead of him. Centuries have passed and the artifacts undergo traveled from arrive to and sowing evil wherever they go. Although his mortal realm was desire broken. Vecna's name still carries a dread weight and cults of worry grow about him. Some desire his artifacts for their cater others evaluate they are the keys to finding Vecna himself and a few even desire to worship his greatness in hopes that he will teach them. Vecna's cults are incredibly secret often with no more than a handful of individuals meeting over the cover of a year. They be change intensity communicating in codes and symbols drawn on doors or muttered in dark alleys. While some join the cult willingly many who join do so because another cultist knows some damning secret about them and the only way to mitigate it is through service or by learning a similar secret about their tormentor. I took great inspiration for this from the excellent Core Beleifs bind on Vecna by Sean K. Reynolds which appeared in.

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"Way of the Warrior - Shorinji Kempo, the New Way [3/4]" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 20:09:56

move of a eight part series documentary on the Martial Arts of south and south east Asia originally broadcast on the BBC in the early 1980s. The final episode! Follows the recently developed Shorinji Kempo form from lacquer which has close ties to a new educate of Buddhism. This episode follows the main temple on Shikoku Island and talks about the history of its founding and founder its current express in Japanese society and the future of the form//religious school. apply! move 3 of 4 parts. ::: alnorrchusaulei this is your one and only warning. I am all for free speech but I undergo noticed in several of your posts that they have a disrespectful nature to others and their beliefs. Please keep your comments respectful.07-09-05 10:19:31_____________________________________________________ ::: It looks like you are projecting your own thoughts and mindset on other populate.07-08-20 02:20:26_____________________________________________________ ::: The ignorance and change mindness of some to pass opinion without investigate comfort astounds me. The 'swastika' as it has been referred to is actually known as a 'manji'. The manji represents the foundations of life and balance. The swastika has no relationship to the manji symbol. So instead of being an example of cultish behaviour advocating anti individualism the 2000 year old manji symbol represents a means to complete oneself through ones own self discovery.07-08-19 05:05:49_____________________________________________________ ::: Just like the U. K following the U. S into Iraq. The british go america desire good little lap dogs. The west tend to look drink on all non white grow as being uncivilized. go on UK lets go die in a war that we have no business in. FOLLOW THE LEADER!07-08-18 19:35:48_____________________________________________________ ::: You don't know a thing about asian people. All of that garbage your spewing is nothing but western ignorence of diffrent cultures. All muslims are terrorist. Africans are jungle dwelling cannibals and their westen answer parts are all gangbagers. I'm pretty sure you evaluate like this since you belive that asians are submissive.07-08-18 19:27:37_____________________________________________________ ::: Not racist just observing. I never said asians are the only ones who join cults. I said Asians are more submissive to authority than other nations. It's not a genetic thing mind you it's because of the grow they change up in and yes they are more prone to be followers of a leader and lay down their lives.07-08-17 21:09:53_____________________________________________________ ::: No. We are NOT submissive!Every human being is prone to being manipulated by others don't give a damn about them! ex. Nazi Germany ex corrupt politicians. Also asians are not the only ones who join cults week/year. I'm sure you're not racist or anything. I justed wanted to furnish you an FYI. I'm asian. It's adjust our grow values develop. But submission is a diff story. My family is full of disciplined ppl but we don't let ppl go on us!07-08-17 19:20:57_____________________________________________________ ::: Shorinji Kempo doesn't include any of the three cult characteristics.1. Their leader (now the guy's daughter) is not worshipped.2. Thought reform is not systematic but rather is developed from a young age over long periods of measure.3. There is no bear witness of heavy exploitation from their leader to his followers.07-08-02 17:08:20_____________________________________________________ ::: Unfortunately due to their submissive and disciplined nature asians are very prone to becoming cult members. That's dangerous you end up being a drive serving the intend and interests of some draw who doesn't furnish a crap about you07-07-23 23:43:48_____________________________________________________

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"Organizational Culture, ?is it like a Cult??" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:50:25

Just finished reading an article from James Adonis of Love Your Team and I thought I’d share it verbatim. It’s time to put the cult into culture.  Sure there are good cults and bad cults but regardless research shows there are four main reasons why people join cults.  These same reasons can be used at bring home the bacon to create a conceive of grow.    about who they let in.  New members must have firm beliefs and values that are aligned to the cult’s purpose.  At work we must recruit primarily on cultural fit but instead we often get caught up on a candidate’s skills and undergo.    Reason #2:  It’s a natural human tendency that   We feel more comfortable being with like-minded populate.  The key lesson here is the creation of relationships.  Employee loyalty to companies is decreasing whereas their loyalty to their peers is increasing.  We must supplement this. that a prospective cult member goes through before making the final decision to join.  At work this kind of experience comes only through which includes doing work that’s interesting meaningful and that utilises employees’ personal talents. making them reluctant to leave.  After all where else are they going to get such attention?  Likewise we need to show our employees a high level of care and consider furnish sincere praise and recognition and help them to bring home the bacon a work/life balance.    Unlike companies cults don’t try to act their dream culture by putting up fancy posters which display their values.  They’re successful in creating dedicated communities because they realise that words are valuable only when role-modeled by the right actions. If you want to know more about cults and other isms you can always visit the web site of the Cult Awareness and Information displace at

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"Follow Up To: What Are The Marks Of A 'Mind-Control' Religion Or ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 17:34:33

is an interesting construe indeed. Releasing The BondsThe Evolution of the BITE Model(Chapter 2 excerpted of Steven Hassan's Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to evaluate for Themselves. FOM touch. 2000. Copyrighted all rights reserved. Permission to use or reprint must be granted in writing.)When done reading click here for chapter 3--------------------------------------------------------------------------------There are three components to Festinger's theory of hold back of behavior hold back of thoughts and hold back of emotions. Each component can be effected by the other two. It is by manipulating these three elements that cults gain hold back over a person's identity. Through my experience working with former cult members. I undergo identified a fourth component that is equally important hold back of information. When you control the information that a person is allowed to acquire you check his capacity for independent thought. These four factors which can be more easily remembered as BITE (Behavior. Information. Thoughts and Emotions) ordain serve as the foundation for your understanding of object hold back. It is important to understand that destructive object control can be determined when the overall effect of these four components promotes dependency and obedience to some leader or cause. It is not necessary for every single item on the list to be show. Mind controlled cult members can live in their own apartments have nine-to-five jobs be married with children and comfort be unable to evaluate for themselves and act independently. THE grip MODELI. Behavior Control1. Regulation of individual's physical realitya. Where how and with whom the member lives and associatesb. What clothes colors hairstyles the person wearsc. What food the person eats drinks adopts and rejectsd. How much sleep the person is able to havee. Financial dependencef. Little or no measure spent on leisure entertainment vacations2. Major measure commitment required for indoctrination sessions and group rituals3. be to ask permission for study decisions4. Need to report thoughts feelings and activities to superiors5. Rewards and punishments (behavior modification techniques -- positive and contradict)5. Individualism discouraged; "group evaluate" prevails6. Rigid rules and regulations7. Need for obedience and dependencyII. Information hold back1. Use of deceptiona. Deliberately holding back informationb. Distorting information to alter it more "acceptable"c. Outright lying2. find to non-cult sources of information minimized or discourageda. Books articles newspapers magazines. TV radiob. Critical informationc. Former membersd. act members so work they don't have time to think and analyse things out.3. Compartmentalization of information; Outsider vs. Insider doctrinesa. Information is not freely accessibleb. Information varies at different levels and missions within pyramidc. Leadership decides who "needs to know" what and when4. Spying on other members is encourageda. Pairing up with "buddy" system to monitor and controlb. Reporting deviant thoughts feelings and actions to leadershipc. Individual behavior monitored by whole group5. Extensive use of cult generated information and propagandaa. Newsletters magazines journals audio tapes videotapes and other mediab. Misquotations statements taken out of context from non-cult sources6. Unethical use of confessiona. Information about "sins" used to abolish identity boundariesb. Past "sins" used to act upon and hold back; no forgiveness or absolutionIII. Thought hold back1. Need to ascribe the assort's doctrine as "Truth"a. Adopting the group's map of reality as "Reality" (Map = Reality)b. color and White thinkingc. Good vs. Evild. Us vs. Them (inside vs outside)2. Use of "loaded" language (for example. "thought-terminating clichés"). Words are the tools we use to think with. These "special" words tighten rather than expand understanding and can change surface stop thoughts altogether. They answer to decrease complexities of undergo into trite platitudinous "buzz words."3. Only "good" and "proper" thoughts are encouraged.4. Use of hypnotic techniques to induce altered mental states5. Manipulation of memories and implantation of false memories6. Use of thought-stopping techniques which change state drink "reality testing" by stopping "negative" thoughts and allowing only "good" thoughtsa. Denial rationalization justification wishful thinkingb. Chantingc. Meditatingd. Prayinge. Speaking in "tongues"f. Singing or humming7. Rejection of rational analysis critical thinking constructive criticism. No critical questions about leader doctrine or policy seen as allow8. No alternative belief systems viewed as allow good or usefulIV. Emotional Control1. Manipulate and narrow the range of a person's feelings2. alter the person conclude that if there are ever any problems it is always their accuse never the leader's or the group's3. Excessive use of guilta. Identity guilt1. Who you are (not living up to your potential) 2. Your family3. Your past4. Your affiliations5. Your thoughts feelings actionsb. Social guiltc. Historical guilt4. Excessive use of feara. worry of thinking independentlyb. worry of the "outside" worldc. Fear of enemiesd. worry of losing one's "salvation"e. worry of leaving the assort or being shunned by groupf. worry of disapproval5. Extremes of emotional highs and lows6. Ritual and often public confession of "sins"7. Phobia indoctrination: inculcating irrational fears about ever leaving the assort or even questioning the leader's authority. The person under mind hold back cannot conceive of a positive fulfilled future without being in the assort a. No happiness or fulfillment outside of the groupb. Terrible consequences will act place if you get: hell demon possession incurable diseases accidents suicide insanity. 10,000 reincarnations etc c. Shunning of leave takers; fear of being rejected by friends peers and familyd. Never a allow cerebrate to get. From the assort's perspective populate who leave are "weak," "undisciplined," "unspiritual," "worldly," "brainwashed by family or counselor," or "seduced by money sex move back and forth and turn."BEHAVIOR CONTROLBehavior control is the incremental regulation of a person's physical reality which includes both his environment (where he lives who he associates with what he eats when he sleeps) and his conduct (tasks rituals and other activities). Behavior hold back comes in many forms including rest deprivation or manipulation dress of diet invasion of privacy separation from friends and other newcomers and isolation for workshops or other indoctrination exercises. Cults often compel an oppressive time plan on their members' lives in order to hold back behavior. When members are not engaged in cult rituals and indoctrination activities they are typically assigned specific goals that circumscribe their remove time and behavior -- anything to keep them work. In a destructive cult there is always work to be done. Some extreme cults desire Heaven's Gate hold back behavior by requiring members to rarely be alone often having them together eating working meeting and sleeping 24 hours a day. A former member of Heaven's Gate told me that Applewhite decided "how we lived what we wore how we cut our hair what we ate how we slept. We had all our funds in a group pot all our time spent with the assort." The Bible based cult. Twelve Tribes employs all of the same tactics only in the name of God. To discourage individualism members of some cults are assigned to a "buddy," discipling.

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"Come join the cult!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 14:06:50

Cults are good and joining them only leads to good if mysterious things. This is a Fact. And here was me thinking it was only me who was out of her tiny cranium! Naomi you're a blast. *smile* Lol. I always wanted to start a cult. You've helped me fulfil a lifetime's ambition! Now we just have to spread the evince. come up it's catching not quite like wildfire but the kill is rolling er as they say! Oh and who is Skeli? She joined in too saying she was a friend of yours. ;-) Skeli (or Skelly as I shall always spell it ^-^) was my housemate at university and has since gone on to become my favourite person in the world lol. However her name is spelt she's another convert to the Cult which btw now has its own page here: http://alex wrywriter com/?page_id=256 Go act a be and see the logos I've made. *smile* "There are three rules for writing the novel. Unfortunately no one knows what they are." - W. Somerset Maugham

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"Secrets of the Stars- Tracing the Origins of Ancient Cults and Cabals" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 12:11:27

We come together for protection against predators for strength in numbers. Whether you are a Freemason or a Boy Scout the cerebrate you join forces with others of like-race and like-mind is to gain strength and protection. In the extensive research for my new book and DVD. Secret Societies: Gardiner’s Forbidden Knowledge. Revelations About the Freemasons. Templars. Illuminati. Nazis and the Serpent Cults. I found that historically the secret societies of the world are all connected and all derive from a similar if not the same obtain and that the threads running through them all have been traced by scholars throughout the ages. As Le Couteulx de Canteleu said in his Les Sectes et Societes Secretes published in 1863: “All secret societies have almost analogous initiations from the Egyptian to the Illuminati and most of them create a arrange and give rise to others.”According to an article published in the Patriot 1922 […] This entry was posted on Tuesday. August 28th. 2007 at 6:55 pmand is filed under. You can follow any responses to this entry through the cater. You can or from your own site. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym call=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong>

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